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200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

It was necessary to make a welding unit for use in the garage and in the country. Simple yet powerful, with up to 200A output current to weld steel up to 12mm thick. electrodes “four” or “five”.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Necessary


  • Four new or used power transformers from a microwave oven;
  • Insulated stranded wire with a cross-section of at least 50 mm2;
  • Sleeves for crimping wires and pressing pliers;
  • Simple metalworking and carpentry tools;
  • Multilayer plywood for the device body;
  • Multimeter and a remote thermometer;
  • Various small things, fasteners, paint, etc.

Manufacturing of electrical parts


The transformers themselves can be bought new or used, in microwave repair shops, at a decent discount.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We remove the second winding. You can use a cutting disc or a regular hacksaw for metal. The main thing is not to damage the primary winding!
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We knock out the remains of the cut “primary” with a beard or any suitable steel rod.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Then carefully lay 10 turns of cable into the free “window”.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We leave the conclusions at 15 cm.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We repeat the operation with the remaining transformers.

Electrical check


It is necessary to check the electrics of the future welding machine.
ATTENTION!
All further electrical installation work must be carried out ONLY with the device de-energized!
We connect the windings using twists according to the diagram.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Network, former secondary, in “parallel”.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We assemble the output windings in series.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

In this case, it is necessary that the outputs of one winding be connected to the input of the next!
We connect the network windings to a powerful 220 V outlet. We check the current consumed by the unit when there is no load.
About 11 A., a bit too much, but tolerable.
We measure the voltage at the output of the combined power welding windings. The resulting voltage was 35 - 37 V. Each transformer had 9 V.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Then we check the possibility of igniting the arc and try to weld a couple of steel parts.
Cooking! The seam turns out great.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

During the welding process, the input current is 32 - 35 A, the arc current is 170 - 190 A.
We check the heating of the transformers, it does not exceed 80 0C. Acceptable.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Frame


Transformers are welded two at a time.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

You can make the case out of metal, or you can choose something ready-made. It was easier for me to make it from multi-layer plywood.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

The housing must have large ventilation openings.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We install a fan for forced ventilation of the transformers.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Final assembly of the device


We install all components and parts in the housing. We connect winding terminals, mains and output welding terminals, with metal sleeves of appropriate diameters. We compress the sleeves with press pliers.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

We insulate the joints with heat-shrinkable tubes, heating them with a hairdryer.
Close the lid, the device is ready.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Checking work


We weld two 6 mm. steel plates. The arc is smooth, there are no current drops. The seam is obtained with deep penetration.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

Through the hole in the housing we check the transformers for overheating. The temperature is a little over 40 0C.
We repeat welding with 12 mm. steel scraps. The result is again positive.
200 A welding machine from microwave ovens

The “welder” turned out great!


However, it is worth remembering that the transformers in the device are relatively small. Therefore, the most important characteristic for a welding unit PV (on duration) or PN (load duration) is small here, 20 - 30%. Cook for 3 minutes, let the device rest for 7 - 8 minutes. At this time, you can change the electrode, rearrange the parts being welded, or just take a break.
To increase the performance of the device and reduce its heating, it makes sense to install a more powerful fan or install a second one. One will pump air, the other will pull air. Cooling efficiency will improve.

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Comments (18)
  1. Guest Yuri
    #1 Guest Yuri Guests 21 February 2019 16:23
    5
    It’s easier and cheaper to buy an 8-10 ampere LATR, remove the mechanics and wind 50 turns of the secondary winding on it. The efficiency of a toroidal core is much higher, the device is lightweight and heats up less.
  2. Sergey K
    #2 Sergey K Visitors 21 February 2019 16:28
    9
    I liked about welding transformers 2 at a time.Is it okay that the magnetic circuit is made up of separate plates?
    And in general the idea raises doubts about its feasibility. A Chinese inverter costs 40 bucks, a more or less normal one is twice as expensive. A transformer from a microwave, I just looked at OLH for fun, about 10 bucks... I think comments are unnecessary.
  3. Max
    #3 Max Guests 21 February 2019 18:36
    4
    and where is 50 square?
    1. antioh
      #4 antioh Guests 22 February 2019 12:14
      1
      Yes, it looks no more than 20. Based on the current density, it's more or less spot on!
  4. Igor
    #5 Igor Guests 23 February 2019 10:03
    4
    But this doesn’t bother you: Remove the second winding. You can use a cutting disc or a regular hacksaw for metal. The main thing is not to damage the primary winding! We knock out the remains of the cut “primary” with a beard or any suitable steel rod.?
    1. Igor2
      #6 Igor2 Guests 23 February 2019 20:31
      1
      That’s right, Mr. Smart Guy, you’ve probably never been familiar with a microwave transformer, that’s why you’re writing nonsense
  5. Guest Sergey
    #7 Guest Sergey Guests 24 February 2019 17:15
    9
    Are these “specialists” already fed up with electric welding!? Find the best book on welding by Glizmanenko, and read the theory: The welding machine should have a falling current-voltage characteristic, no-load voltage about 60 volts, when welding about 30 volts! Constant voltage is allowed up to 80 volt! Now about welding thick metal, metal larger than 5 millimeters is welded with a V-shaped groove of the edges! For a high-strength connection, the seams are welded with 3 (three!) ml electrodes and several passes! Therefore, at home, have welding with a welding current of more than 160 amperes, according to in my opinion, it’s idiocy! In my youth I worked as an electric welder for 20 years, including working in a mailbox with a personal stamp.
  6. Anytoliy
    #8 Anytoliy Guests February 25, 2019 11:09
    7
    I didn’t see the seam welding! This is Lyapukha and splashes. THE SEAM IS NOT WELDED!
    1. KiteBlack
      #9 KiteBlack Guests 28 February 2019 22:01
      3
      What kind of welding is there if this, excuse the expression, welding machine (actually just a transformer with a core ruined by welding) has a rigid current-voltage characteristic? Burning holes and throwing molten metal around is the lot of this squalor...
  7. Igor
    #10 Igor Guests 25 February 2019 13:37
    0
    I wonder how it was possible to measure a current of 10 A????
  8. Victor Lungu
    #11 Victor Lungu Guests February 26, 2019 08:29
    4
    Which household network can withstand a primary current of 32 - 37 A. This is already industry. According to the RD, the protective device for sockets must be 10 (16) A
  9. KiteBlack
    #12 KiteBlack Guests 28 February 2019 21:53
    7
    "...We check the current consumed by the unit when there is no load.
    About 11 A., a bit much, but tolerable..." - this is, after all, "too much"!!! Eleven amperes is 2.5 kW AT IDLE!!! And the author's whole problem is that he does not know that , having welded the core sheets, he made it into just a piece of iron... Even if this one doesn’t smoke figb in 5 minutes (it starts smoking earlier) - cook, anyway, she can’t - just cut. This is not a welder, it is just a step-down transformer with a rigid current-voltage characteristic. I should have studied at school, not sniffed glue in the toilet...
    1. Guest Sergey
      #13 Guest Sergey Guests 7 March 2019 13:08
      1
      It's sad that you have never seen welded transformer core plates. I cut them when disassembling them.
  10. Guest Mikhail
    #14 Guest Mikhail Guests 4 April 2019 23:46
    1
    Where did you buy the tester that is Merritt 177. Ampere, give me a link.

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